02-19 Inferno

[Colonel Carter]

Title: Inferno
Directed by: Peter DeLuise
Written by: Carl Binder
Original Air Date: January 23, 2006 (The Movie Network)

Synopsis: The team comes to aid a civilization taking refuge throughout an Ancient outpost. While trying to repair systems, McKay discovers a volcano below the outpost that will obliterate the entire planet, suggesting evacuation. Yet during the process, the Stargate is destroyed.



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Good episode despite the references AGAIN to Star Trek and the sexual tension. Atlantis boys obviously don't show as much self-control as SG-1 boys.

What I don't get is why do all these people they rescue want to go to some other planet? Shoot, if I was rescued to Atlantis I would want to stay there, the place seems far safer than anywhere else in the galaxy. I don't get why everyone they rescue are in such a hurry to leave.

I knew from the beginning that they would end up rescuing that ship. One of those "obvious" things.

[Anissa T]

I was quite tickled that Shep told Rodney he couldn't name the ship Enterprise. :roflol Of course I've loved "almost" every Star Trek show there was, so I find the comments mostly funny.

Anyhow, the little scene between the girl and Shep was a bit irritating. I'm like come on already. Give it a break!

Despite the fact that it was a pretty predictable episode, I liked it.

I did wonder though, if the Ancients were so advanced, you'd think they would have figured out how to harness the geothermo power from outside of the volcano.

[Colonel Carter]

Another thing I found annoying was how well Teyla and Ronon seemed to be onboard the ship. I'm sorry, but after inhaling that much toxic gas, I'm thinking they should have been in the infirmary too dizzy to stand. I found it very annoying to see them standing on board the bridge as though the only thing they needed was clean air. That part just irked me because I found it so unbelievable.

[Dracus]

Like my father always says, "Its scifi. Deal with it."

:P Im not sure about the whole launching the ship up with magma too. In my opinion, the ancient ship would have got decimated.

It was a cool plan though.

[Anissa T]

the ancient ship would have got decimated

Normally, I think that too, but didn't Rodney figure out how to have shield for somewhere around 4 seconds? I think that is what protected them until they got into the atmosphere.

Although, I found it interesting that the gate was so easily taken by the lava when we've seen in SG1 episodes all the things those gates can endure.

[cb49747]

What is up with Sheppard and the girls?

It is getting to be a bit much.

[John Hayward]

I thought it was funny to see Mckay nervously babbling throughout the episode. And for whatever reason it just seemed funny- and a bit ironic- to me when that one tremor hit and the lights went out and John was holding what's-her-name while McKay was hiding under the table.

[Anissa T]

Oh, I loved his response when he got back up.

"Nothing Under There"

[John Hayward]

That was funny. And the back-and-forth where Shep was trying to inspire Rodney by reminding him of their impending doom and how their lives were in his hands was also enjoyable.

[Colonel Carter]

Personally, I like the idea of that girl ending up with Rodney. She seems to be the first girl who can actually shut him up with nothing more than her presence. We need to see more of her and Rodney together! :nah

[Anissa T]

I did think that in the begining. Maybe that is what irritated me about that moment between her and Shep. I think Rodney was really tickled with her. Of course, is Shep thinking of anybody except himself?

NOPE!

[Colonel Carter]

Rodney did seem more interested in her, I sensed he'd be more interested in a lasting relationship than Sheppard who seems more interested in a new girl every week.

I do think it would be funny if they had an ongoing subplot of Rodney and Shep fighting over the same girl.

[John Hayward]

Did it never cross anybody's mind that maybe it was Sheppard's protective instincts and not his sex drive that made him do that? I mean, the whole world is about to blow up and suddenly everything starts shaking and the lights go out. Do you all really have such a low opinion of him that, in your minds, the first thing he would think is "Grab on to the nearest hot girl!" Maybe I'm alone in this, but I like Sheppard. I don't have as low an opinion of him as some of you seem to. Anyway, that's just my opinion and I guess it doesn't really matter anyway.

Also, if I remember correctly, Rodney was equally as bumbling about trying to court the woman in the season 1 episode The Brotherhood. That was the one where they found a ZPM but Kolya (the Genii guy from The Storm) showed up and ruined everything. I only say that to support my opinion, which is that Rodney is entirely inept around women, not just those he really really likes.

Also let's not forget that if either of these two is the arrogant pig when it comes to women, it's McKay. Do we not remember what he was like on SG-1 a few years back? If not, then I say just look at Moebius, because that's basically the same McKay who's on Atlantis now, in my opinion.

[Colonel Carter]

I didn't have a problem with his natural protective instincts, just how he lingered holding onto her looking like he wanted to kiss her instead of letting her go.


Rodney is entirely inept around women, not just those he really really likes.
I don't agree with that because he works fine around Weir and Teyla. He doesn't like a woman being smarter than him though. He needs to work on his social skills altogether though, not just his social skills with women.

[John Hayward]

He didn't kiss her though, did he? :D

I agree. Rodney can't stand anyone being smarter than him, regardless of gender. Also, I meant women he likes. And he definitely needs to work on his social skills.

[Colonel Carter]

I wouldn't have minded her kissing him if she gave him a big slap on the face for it. That would have been great to see.

I felt so bad for Rodney though, I though he looked like a little lost puppy when he saw them standing there like that. I'm sure he feels very inferior next to Shep in regards to attracting women. So I actually have a lot of sympathy for him in that regard. Makes me want to see him find a nice girl, as long as he treats her nice.

Maybe he should start having weekly appointments with the psychologist. ;)

[John Hayward]

Wow. You really don't like Sheppard, do you? I guess I just don't get that, and probably never will. I can understand how McKay might feel inferior, but I don't really feel sorry for him.

[Colonel Carter]

I like Sheppard, but I don't like the writer's having him kiss a girl every week or two. It just starts to feel a bit much, as McKay said in season one - too much like Captain Kirk. Although Shep is way better looking than Kirk ever was.

I like Sheppard enough that I want to seem him grow up and act like a mature and responsible adult who can show impulse control. I guess make him a little more like Jack and Daniel. But maybe that was part of the point of his character, creating a rebel.

I think he annoys me though because his attitude and all I can identify with. I'm a lot like his personality, minus that I don't go around kissing every attractive guy I see. Like I said in the master personality quiz thread, I'm like Daniel on a good day and I'm like Sheppard on a bad day. :p

[John Hayward]

I suppose I can understand where you're coming from, I just disagree. I like his wide-eyed, almost childish spirit. It's the spirit of exploration and adventure. And for the record, he doesn't exactly kiss a girl every week. In fact, I went back and counted up all the episodes in which he kissed a woman or had any kind of a love interest.

In all 20 episodes of season 1, Santucary was the only episode in which Sheppard got involved with a woman (that I can recall, anyway, I just glanced over an episode list).

Of the 19 episodes that have aired so far of this season, he has been involved with a woman in the following episodes:

Aurora- if you count the First Officer, whom I don't think he actually kissed.
The Hive- Neera, who turned out to be a Wraith collaborator, and whom John also didn't actually kiss- they just snuggled... for warmth.
Epiphany- Teer. This was the episode where he got stranded for months with the colony of people trying to Ascend. I'm not sure I would call that jumping into bed with a strange woman. I would also remind you of a similar SG-1 episode called A Hundred Days.
The Tower- I don't remember very clearly, but I'm fairly certain John actually spurned the advances of the young woman in this particular episode. I believe you could call that "impulse control."
The Long Goodbye- Doesn't count because he wasn't in control of his body
Inferno- Again, he never actually kissed her.

[Anissa T]

Did it never cross anybody's mind that maybe it was Sheppard's protective instincts and not his sex drive that made him do that?

Give me a break. That may have been his initial reaction, but it was not his final reaction.



The Tower- I don't remember very clearly, but I'm fairly certain John actually spurned the advances of the young woman in this particular episode. I believe you could call that "impulse control."

I think he initially spurned her advances, but later succombed (sp??) to them.

Anyhow, whether his fault or the writers fault people get a little tired of seeing it every other week, regardless of the reason.

You listed 7 episodes for season 2. That's over 1/3rd of the season he has looked flirtingly, kissed or touched other women. I know they are trying to give him this macho vibe, but throw some storyline in there with it. Geez..........

You don't see anyone else on Atlantis getting that kind of time or on SG1 for that matter.

Oh and FYI, I do like Shep. I do like his child like personality, but he doesn't know how to reel it in in certain situations.

Same goes for Rodney. But he has different issues. Oh and I have a feeling that he thinks the psychologist isn't smart enough to deal with his issues.

:lol

[Colonel Carter]

Whether he is in control of his body or not doesn't matter. It was clear that the writer's were trying to create an episode where they could get Shep and Weir to kiss. Clearly they wouldn't have done such a thing without their minds being controlled. And that also felt very Star Trek-like. I seem to remember an original Star Trek episode where Kirk's mind was controlled and he was forced to kiss a woman or women.

It's the fact that the writers keep looking for every opportunity to do this to Sheppard.

And I think you forgot to mention the episode where he kissed Teyla this season. Which I found annoying because it felt like the entire episode was written just for that kiss.

[Anissa T]

Good one Carter. I'd forgotten about the Teyla kiss. Yep, slowly but surely making his way through Atlantis. Although in all fairness, both the Teyla and Elizabeth kiss was not his fault. I think we are talking about the writers here.

I certainly don't have a problem with seeing this every now and then for a little change. But good gracious not a large portion of the season.

In some shows, even when people are dating and it's known in the show, you still don't see that much lip locking, touching and such.

I mean, how much of that did you see between Sam and Pete?

[John Hayward]

I had forgotten about that. He kissed Teyla in Conversion, where he was basically turning in to a Wraith, if I'm not mistaken.

I agree that it might be a bit much. I'm just trying to stand up for the character. I don't care if the writers get slammed for not being subtle enough in their efforts. Just don't blame it on Sheppard. He's a good character and how is he supposed to help it if his mind keeps getting altered to make him kiss girls he knows, and he keeps finding himself in romantic or sensual situations with women he doesn't know. Anyway, I guess I just don't think it's as big a deal as you all seem to.

[Dracus]

Although, I found it interesting that the gate was so easily taken by the lava when we've seen in SG1 episodes all the things those gates can endure.

Like oh say, Gigantic burning meteors, a nuke, missiles, pulse weapons... And taken by lava.

But then again its probably still there, just frozen in cooled lava.

[John Hayward]

I agree. I don't think the gate was destroyed. It was just buried, which meant they couldn't use it.

[Colonel Carter]

Maybe alien metal made the ship more resiliant.

[Colonel Carter]

Can someone please tell me that this forum is visible. Thanks.

[Anissa T]

Yep, I can see it.