Combat Service

[Anissa T]

I find it very interesting (and it was probably done on purpose) that women in the US can only serve in a limited capacity in combat rolls or even combat support rolls (positions). I mean, as of lately a lot of women end up in combat, but it's not because they serve in a combat position. They are serving combat support positions that end up in combat. Does that make sense?

But, COL Carter has always been in a combat roll throughout SG1.:jaffa

Think it just worked out that way or do you think someone was trying to make a statement?

[Anissa T]

Found this old one, thought I'd bump it up.

[colonel Mitchell]

i think they just wanted a kick butt woman on the team

[yukitoyu22]

I think it was a bit of both.

Sex sells.. and Amanda Tapping is easy on the eyes (plus a good actress, so yay). I also don't think the writers would have gotten away with an all male team (just like they also needed someone not Caucasion on the team too).

I think Amanda Tapping brought in her own strength to the show. The sex-organ line in the first episode was one she actually didn't like. She thought it was too feminist, which is interesting to note. Which implies that, at the very least, the writers wanted a strong female co-lead to begin with.

[Anissa T]

I think the writers meant it to be that way. There has always been the debate whether or not women should be in combat and having been in the military myself, I can see both the pros and cons of the situation.

Although, working with the Stargate program would present its own set of situations that tend to be different than other warlike/combat situations. From a military standpoint, outside of thinking she should have been promoted more often in 10 years (although, I'll readily admit, I'm not sure how the Airforce promotion system works), I think AT has represented her character well as a soldier and has proved a woman can excel in combat situations.

[Robin K]

"I think AT has represented her character well as a soldier and has proved a woman can excel in combat situations."

She proved a woman can excel in SCRIPTED combat situations. I'm not saying a woman can't handle her own in combat. But don't judge by a show that is carefully scripted, using stunt doubles for the action scenes. As realistic as Stargate can be, it's still 'make believe'. Real war is unpredictable, dirty, nasty and cruel. And sadly, often necessary to protect ourselves.

[Anissa T]

"I think AT has represented her character well as a soldier and has proved a woman can excel in combat situations."

She proved a woman can excel in SCRIPTED combat situations. I'm not saying a woman can't handle her own in combat. But don't judge by a show that is carefully scripted, using stunt doubles for the action scenes. As realistic as Stargate can be, it's still 'make believe'. Real war is unpredictable, dirty, nasty and cruel. And sadly, often necessary to protect ourselves.

I was mostly referencing the show. So, yeah, I totally get it. Cause I even catch myself going "that would never happen in real life". LOL! But, your right, real war or even just training situatons could be totally different.

[Lemuria]

I was mostly referencing the show. So, yeah, I totally get it. Cause I even catch myself going "that would never happen in real life". LOL! But, your right, real war or even just training situatons could be totally different.

And in real life you would not come out of a major battle and/or staying up at all hours to save the world and have your hair and make up look perfect. LOL!

[Angelica Constantine]

That is very true Lem.

[Anissa T]

And in real life you would not come out of a major battle and/or staying up at all hours to save the world and have your hair and make up look perfect. LOL!

LOL.....you have no idea how much that drives me nuts sometimes......

[Angelica Constantine]

I'll bet NF...hehe

[wana_be_a_wraith]

Women arnt as strong or good as men thats y theres not many of them in the SGC

Is there any women in the team in wormhole-Xtream

[wana_be_a_wraith]

But isnt Samantha Carter hot woohoo dont mind her as a female weir looks to old she dosnt have the same fire as sam

[Anissa T]

Women arnt as strong or good as men thats y theres not many of them in the SGC

Is there any women in the team in wormhole-Xtream

Do you mean physically strong? Because that is not the only reason for being in the SGC. I would venture to say it's more of an issue with the military being a male dominated field. JMHO!

And yes, there was a woman on Wormhole X-treme.

[Angelica Constantine]

Women arnt as strong or good as men thats y theres not many of them in the SGC

Some Women are as physically strong as most men...I am one of them. So that theory does not float a boat in my books.
As for the "or as good" part no were better. :wink: in almost all senses of the word.

But most of the time they are shamed by the men....After all this is a male dominated world. Women are just smart enough to bide there time and keep a low profile.

There is that woman who is suppose to represent Carter on Wormmhole X-treme. So yeah.

[colonel Mitchell]

no dude men are afraid to say women are better but the truth is they are way better then men.

[Angelica Constantine]

Well said cM. :D

[colonel Mitchell]

thanks

[wana_be_a_wraith]

jezze i like women but i dont think they have as much vital qualitys as men when it comes to fighting life and death earth in peril situations

[wana_be_a_wraith]

why is evry one ganging up on me? im just a wraith :wraith:

[Anissa T]

jezze i like women but i dont think they have as much vital qualitys as men when it comes to fighting life and death earth in peril situations

May I ask why you think that? Specifically. The reason being is I spent several long years in the US Army and sometimes did many more things than the men in my unit. There are many women out there who posses the ability to do many more things then men, both mentally and physically. Not saying all women are like that, but I know some serious warriors. You just never hear about it because the military is a male dominated field.

When we talk about saving the earth from an alien attack, the likelyhood is it isn't going to be hand to hand combat (at first). So, assuming we use a bomb or fighter jets or some such thing, women possess "equal" ability to do that job. Furthermore, when the time comes for hand to hand combat, you'd be a little suprised how far a little street skills, military training and adrenaline will go.

I don't know about the Australian military, but the US military not only have female commanders, but they specifically have female commanders in combat positions. If they were not capable, they would not be in command.



why is evry one ganging up on me? im just a wraith

What did you expect when you tell a female dominated site that they are not as capable as men?

[colonel Mitchell]

yeah there are more females then males in command on this site

[Angelica Constantine]

I think she was refering to the members of our site cM. :wink:

But I think it says a lot for our illustious leader Jack, to premote two females into command positions...but he did not give it too us because we were female...but because we earned the positions.
We both have good strong personalities...in our own separate ways. Military background for NF and growing up in the rural areas of Canada and practicing at a Rifle Range. I was/am a major Tomboy, fixing cars and helping to build Sawmills etc.
So, I think we both use our backgrounds to our own advantages. :yea:

Hey, I very much respect NF:helm:...she had the guts to enter the military :go: where I was not able too. And just coz I am the one who does most of the butt kickin' :r1 :j4 XDXDXD around here does not mean NF cannot and she has. :tla2

So, Wana_be, I think you have lost your argument. XDXDXDXDXDXD

Be a Wraith fine, but just chill everything is cool, calm and collected for the most part around here. :ca: Just enjoy your time here.

Ok? Ok...XD

:cb1

[colonel Mitchell]

there goes ac with her scary authority

[Angelica Constantine]

Naa....I am just explaining a point. S'all Cool. XDXDXD

[wana_be_a_wraith]

kk i was just joking with the male betta then female and anyways this is a female dominat site theres to manys girls wats up with that?

[colonel Mitchell]

not alotta guys sign into forum eh?

[wana_be_a_wraith]

nah dunno y seems like a guy show but i supose with all the guys its a bi gender show

[Robin K]

Ronny Cox (Sen. Kinsey) made the observation that the majority of Stargate SG1 fans seem to be women, simply because the show is dialogue driven...that is, it's a very intellectual show, as opposed to shows that depend on a lot of fighting and explosions to fill up time (because neither ever expand the story plot!). So it's not surprising that the fandom leans heavily toward women.

Another observation that Mr. Cox made was that Stargate fans are for the most part very intelligent...that the men and women who call themselves fans of the show are well read and 'delightful conversationalists'. Apparently he thoroughly enjoys his time at the conventions, as he's able to interact with the fans.

[wana_be_a_wraith]

i understand it pretty good...

[wana_be_a_wraith]

ok i think we getting a bit of topic