The movie that started it all.

[cb49747]

Been on this board awile and I have never given my 2 cents worth on the movie so here it is.

I really enjoyed the movie and was extreemly excited to find out they were making a series about it. I was even more excited to find out RDA was staring. But really did not get to watch untill Scifi grabbed it.

Anyway, about the movie. The plot was good great special effects and surpurb acting. Well everyone except the guy from 3rd Rock From The Sun. What upset me about the movie was I felt there was so much that could have been said. I really expected the movie to end in a way which suggested sequal. Hence the excitement about the series. I think it was one of Kurt Russel's better movies with the exception of Tango and Cash (Love That Movie).

Chris

[Colonel Carter]

I thought the movie ended suggesting a sequel. They left Daniel behind after all. I thought they ended it well, leaving the possibility for a sequel yet making it conclude in case the studio wouldn't let them make a sequel. Unlike the Lost in Space movie which left you hanging and no sequel has ever been made, probably because it wasn't that great of a movie. I actually thought Lost in Space was good up to the morning they woke up on the planet and father and son went into their thing about "What if you don't come back?" which was way too cliche and cheesy to watch.

Anyway, I liked the 3rd Rock From the Sun guy in the movie. Way better than the guy who played him in the tv series. I don't like how Ferretti's character has just disappeared and we don't know what happened to him. He deserves to be on SG-1.

[cb49747]

The Third Rock Guy just seemed to try to hard. Don't remember the character on Stargate sg1.

I guess it was more of a subtle sequel ending. I was hoping for a bigger opening such as Lost in Space. But then again I was disapointed that a sequal never came out for Lost in Space.

Chris

[yukitoyu22]

I didn't realize this until I just found out. The Jack in the movie spells his last name with one L, which is interesting to note since RDA's O'Neill makes sure to point out he's O'Neill with 2 Ls.

[Robin K]

I didn't realize this until I just found out. The Jack in the movie spells his last name with one L, which is interesting to note since RDA's O'Neill makes sure to point out he's O'Neill with 2 Ls.

I think that was done by the writers and RDA to make certain there was no 'connection' between him and KR. RDA played the part in a totally different, and in my opinion, much better way that KR. KR came off as if he was a Marine, not a Colonel in the Air Force. That was the joke on base here in town when the movie came out...that whoever was in charge of the military aspect of the movie didn't have a clue about the different branches. True, O'Neill (and O'Neil) was former Special Ops, but still, until you've been around Marines...well, let's just say they're in a class of their own, goddess bless each and every one of them!

[yukitoyu22]

Ya, and even RDA said he'd have a hard time playing Jack as so 'stoic'

[Angelica Constantine]

Gees I hope Lemuria don't read this thread. I am sure she would have something to say about it. LOL

Me personally I agree with you all. RDA Jack O'Neill is better....;)

[Lemuria]

Gees I hope Lemuria don't read this thread. I am sure she would have something to say about it. LOL

Me personally I agree with you all. RDA Jack O'Neill is better....;)

Kurt Russell is the original and will always be the real O'Neall to me. That is just my personal opinion.

Now moving on. Who does everyone think is the better Dr. Jackson? James Spader or Michael Shanks.

[yukitoyu22]

It's hard to tell. Daniel grows up and changes so much in the show. I'd have to say they are pretty even in the first season. Michael Shanks looks a lot like James Spader. (In the first season of course)

[Colonel Sampras]

Michael Shanks is the only real dr jackson!

[Robin K]

Michael Shanks is the only real dr jackson!

I sooooooooooooo agree...:wink:

[Angelica Constantine]

As do I.

Although for the movie James Spader played a good part. But once Michael Shanks came on to the scene that was it. Bye bye David....Hellooo Michael...Woohoo...

[Anissa T]

It's James Spader (LOL). Isn't David Spade the guy who was dating Heather Locklear right after her split up with Richie Sambora?

[Lemuria]

LOL. It is not David Spader either. It was James Spader. LOL. I did notice at the beginning of the series Michael Shanks tried to act like James, i.e. the long hair and talking through his teeth.

[colonel Mitchell]

richard dean anderson makes a better jack oneill than kurt russell because rda is funnyer

[Starflight26]

I didn't realize this until I just found out. The Jack in the movie spells his last name with one L, which is interesting to note since RDA's O'Neill makes sure to point out he's O'Neill with 2 Ls.

Another interesting thing I noticed when I watched the movie another time around is O'Neill's son's name can be seen on some sort of certificate near the beginning of the movie when O'Neill is sitting in the room and it says 'Tyler' not Charlie. I wonder why they would've changed his name?

I agree that RDA is definitely the better and funnier. I can understand the changes made between the movie and the show though. In the movie O'Neill's character is probably much darker and serious due to his emotions at the loss of his son but in the show after the Abydos mission his character would have more reason to be optimistic and hopeful in life because now he knows that there's something bigger than himself and more spectacular than I'm sure he ever thought possible.

[Anissa T]

When I look back on it, I think apples and oranges. KR only had a certain amount of time and certain filming limitations to develop the character. And, under such conditions, I think he did a wonderful job (as well as James Spader).

On the other hand. RDA has had what 7 years to fine tune O'neill and another season or so to fine to his generalness? And, under those conditions, I think RDA has done an extraordinary job (as well as MS).

[colonel Mitchell]

ms and rda did do a good job but what about the other actors

[Lemuria]

Actually, with the exception of Skaara, Sha're (spelling), Skaara and Sha're's father, and Katherine, there were no other characters that where in both the movie and the series. The same actors played Skaara and the father in both the movie and the series. I have to say I liked the Sha're in the movie better.

I find it interesting that they totally changed the character of Katherine from the movie and the series. In the movie she was a foriegn woman (French I think) and in the series she was like the American Grandma next door. :huh1:

[Angelica Constantine]

'American Grandma next door'...LMBO...thats too cute, Lamuria.

[colonel Mitchell]

no i mean...it doesnt matter if their from the movie or the series what do u think of the other charactors

[DerekHalfhand]

I think Hammon was perfectly cast. As well as Janet, both were great adds from the movie to the series.

[Anissa T]

I did really enjoy Hammond. Wish he had stayed on until the end. But, he had very valid reasons for leaving.

[Lemuria]

I have a question about the movie that is a little off topic here. AC and I were talking about this. Have any of you noticed that Ra's Jaffa were different than in the series. His Jaffa had no forehead tatoos, nor did they have symbiote pouches. I wonder why they changed it up from the movie?:huh1:

Oh! Also on a side note. Have any of you noticed when watching the beginning of the movie that the dark haired man working with Katherine when Daniel came and asked "Who translated this?" and the assitant to Katherine said "I did." was the same man that played Lucius in two episodes of Atlantis : Season 3's Irresistable, and Irresponsible.

[Starflight26]

I have a question about the movie that is a little off topic here. AC and I were talking about this. Have any of you noticed that Ra's Jaffa were different than in the series. His Jaffa had no forehead tatoos, nor did they have symbiote pouches. I wonder why they changed it up from the movie?:huh1:

Oh! Also on a side note. Have any of you noticed when watching the beginning of the movie that the dark haired man working with Katherine when Daniel came and asked "Who translated this?" and the assitant to Katherine said "I did." was the same man that played Lucius in two episodes of Atlantis : Season 3's Irresistable, and Irresponsible.

Totally did notice that!!! That would be actor Richard Kind he plays Dr. Gary Meyers in the movie, and he is only the 3rd actor from the movie to actually be in any SG franchie show. The other two are Erick Avari (good father Kasuf) and Alexis Cruz(Skaara/Klorel).

As for the Jaffa's, I have no clue why it would be that they would change that other than it makes the show a lot more interesting w/ all the alien stuff (basically the small screen taking a lot of artistic liberty to adapt the storylines) but my personal opinion is that Ra's jaffa's had the COOLEST headgear/armour out of all the Jaffa warriors.

[Lemuria]

but my personal opinion is that Ra's jaffa's had the COOLEST headgear/armour out of all the Jaffa warriors.

I totally agree.:w1

[Starflight26]

It's a shame they only ever incorporated them into the show once.

My memory of the movie might be a bit fuzzy at this point, since it's been a while since I've seen it but does anybody know if there was there ever such a thing as a DHD in the movie?

[Lemuria]

There was never any DHD actually shown on screen or spoken about during the movie. I watched the movie twice this weekend on satellite when I went to my mother's house.

Dr. Jackson (of course played by James Spader) only spoke about finding symbols. They never even showed them dialing the Abydos gate, only showing it activated at the end of the show. I assume there was a DHD because at one point Ra told his Jaffa to send the bomb to earth. I don't think one Jaffa could manually dial a gate very quickly.

Oh, btw, in a previous post in this thread I made mention that the Jaffa did not have the symbol of Ra on their foreheads like the Jaffa did with their respective masters in the series. However, I happened to notice when the main Jaffa (The dark headed guy whom I am assuming was Ra's first prime) turned away he had the eye of Ra on his shoulder.

I so need to get a life. LOL. I just noticed this last night when I watched it for the second time (there was nothing else to watch on TV by this time), that in the movie, Cheyenne Mountain is not Cheyenne Mountain, but called Creek Mountain. Thought that was a little interesting.

[Lemuria]

Nevermind. I just found a website that explained the whole thing to me. It even explained the other questions I had as to why there were so many differences between the show and movie.

[Robin K]

What's the website?

[Lemuria]

http://www.freewebs.com/stargatefilm/

Click on Differences on TV

Okay, I have only been to this website once. That was when I did a search to find this information. I don't know anything about this website.

[Robin K]

Thanks, Lem. Like a goof, I just assumed that everyone understood the difference between "based on" and "adaptation". I knew from the beginning that while the series had been adapted from the movie, it wasn't going to be the same thing.

I loved the movie. I was...and am, completely obsessed with the television series.

To be perfectly honest, I don't know how interested I'd be in seeing the other two movies of the trilogy. (Sounds too much like Star Wars, and I lost interest in that right after "Return of the Jedi". In fact, I don't think I've watched any of the other Star Wars movies.) I'm quite content in the Stargate SG-1 universe...*grin*

[Lemuria]

You see, I always thought that the series was a continuation of the movie. As much as I love the series, I would welcome a trilogy with the main characters played by the original actors (Kurt Russell and James Spader).

Oh, Robin, you are not missing anything with the second trilogy of Star Wars.:wink:

[Robin K]

I really did enjoy the movie...and it is what sparked my interest in the Stargate series...but I had read somewhere (T.V. Guide maybe?...) that the series was basically 'separate' from the movie...I remember there was quite a bit in the article about the fact that the creators of the movie were pretty much 'shut out' of the series by MGM...although I have I no idea why...probably the money issue.

I have to admit that I prefer RDA's O'Neill to Russel's O'Neil...and I'm a big Kurt Russel fan. Never been that crazy about James Spader, so of course LOVE MS's Daniel Jackson much more than the character from the movie.

Ya know, my DIL told me the same thing...that she found the 'new' trilogy a bit disappointing...and she thought that it had created a couple of inconsistencies for the first three movies (as released, not according to the story line.) Something to do with Yoda and Darth Vadar.

In my opinion, so take this as you will, any series that is 'adapted' from a movie, or any movie 'based on' a television series, usually aren't worth my time. So far, Stargate SG-1 has been the very successful exception to that 'rule'.