Who is worse?

[Colonel Carter]

Which race do you think is worse? Or which race do you think is more evil?

[Anissa T]

I didn't vote yet because Atlantis is so new it's hard to tell. I mean at this point it is easy to say the the Wraith is less evil because they are about neccesity and the G'ould were about domination. But, we don't know much about the Wraith right now.

So, ask again in a couple of seasons.

LOL!

[Anissa T]

Although you could say the Wraith are worse because they eat humans and have no regard for them whatsoever. Essentially making them inhuman monsters with no redemptive qualities. Not that the Goa'uld had redemptive qualities, but they didn't go around killing humans unless they got in their way.

[Colonel Carter]

Yeah, I get that. But, what I mean by neccesity was because they weren't arbitrarily (sp??) killing people (although without regard). They were killing humans for food. That's like we say it's okay to kill animals as long as we are using them for food.

Does that make sense?

[Colonel Carter]

Except animals don't show developmental mind skills to make us think they're on the same level intellectually as us. Say we met an alien race who could communicate on our level, I would say it would be morally wrong to eat those aliens because clearly they aren't animals, they're whatever you call beings on the same level of you in that regard. Sensiant (sp?) I think.

So the question would be - why do they choose humans? Other creatures have life forces too.

[Anissa T]

Hmmmm.....

Now, that is an intriguing question. I'll have to ponder that and get back to you. But for now, I would say because we may provide the nutrients in high enough amounts (because we are indeed larger animals, people whatever) as opposed with other types of animals. Furthermore, there are probably more humans than other types of animals.

Speaking of animals, have there been any seen around? I can't remember.

[Colonel Carter]

I don't think we saw many animals in SG-1 either. It would probably take too much work to create alien animals. They did in the movie, that camel-dog looking thing that dragged Daniel across the desert. We did see dogs in SG-1 though.

What about fish? Are the people in Atlantis still eating rashions? You would think they could go fishing.

Going back to the point that the Wraith have mouths with sharp teeth, I would say it seems that they could eat with their mouths. They're probably just too lazy and choose the other form.

[Anissa T]

Except animals don't show developmental mind skills to make us think they're on the same level intellectually as us

Perhaps the Wraith consider themselves (well they do) developmentally superior and thus justifying what they do. Maybe they see humans, as we would see oh say a fish.

[Colonel Carter]

Impossible because we can't have any kind of conversation with a fish. I think it would be, if anything, more like Nazi's thinking they're better than the Jews but are more cannibalistic.

[Anissa T]

Impossible because we can't have any kind of conversation with a fish.

Yeah, well some people use to think you couldn't hold a conversation with a slave or a woman. My point being, regardless whether or not "we" believe we are intelligent, the wraith do not. Aside from that, I don't see anyone else for them to sustain themselves on. When Atlantis was below water, I do not recall seeing a single fish. I don't think the wraith need the kind of sustainment (is that a word?? LOL) they would get from a small animal or plant.

So, I'm sticking with my original thought of us being large enough, both as an individual meal and as a race. I mean, think about it. They have small meats and vegetables. They were on the table in the first episode (and on some of the planets). So, it's obvious they need something else that the human (or humanoid) provides.

[Cwren]

I think the Goa'uld are worse morally, but the Wraith might be more threatening. My reasoning is simple: in one episode where all the system Lords were meeting in a summit, it was revealed that there was a tank full of Goa'uld larvae that they feasted on, making them cannibals. Not only that, but they deliberately misrepresent themselves to human races as Gods, for the main purposes of enslavement and self glorification.

But we have proven that we can kick the Goa'uld's butts for them even being slightly behind technologically speaking. So their main threat comes from the fact that they have superior numbers at their command and technology that they have stolen and been using for a long time.

The Wraith, on the other hand, are still too unknown as to their technology, but it is implied that they were a match for the Ancients, or perhaps even beat them, it's unclear. But the reason they are "evil" is mainly that they prey on us for whatever reason.

This is much like saying that vampires are evil. In legends, they are, but in more enlightened times where we understand more about the nature of disease and addictions, the vampire has been portrayed even as a character to be sympathized with and pitied; even as a sort of anti hero. The instincitve reaction to a predator is revulsion and horror, but it is more understandable as a basic biological need than is pure subjugation for egotistical purposes.

[Colonel Carter]

With the Goa'ulds, what about Anubis? He seemed a real evil threat unlike the rest of the Goa'uld. I haven't seen many episodes involving him yet. All I know is the dude has no face.