I'm having my doubts

[DarkLight188]

Look at this.


Colonel Everett Young
40's handsome, capable, former SG team leader. Like the Jack O'Neill of ten years ago, but Young's edges have tended to sharpen over time. He requested permission to serve the remainder of his commission on Earth upon marrying his wife, Hailey, two years ago, but for now he's temporary commander of a secret off world base. The loss of two members of his team several years ago has taught him never to take anything for granted, and be prepared for anything. He stays on top of his team so they stay alive. STAR NAMES ONLY. SERIES REGULAR;

Tamara Jon
20-25, all ethnicities (Asian Preferably). SGC Field medic, Captain grade. Off world experience. Beautiful, tough, smart, capable. Paramedic level training. Able to triage serious injury. Modest background. Dreamed of being a doctor but couldn't afford medical school and the Air Force was her best option. She ends up being the most medically inclined person on the ship but is overwhelmed by the lack of knowledge and experience treating seriously wounded and ill patients. She also lacks the medicine and supplies and has to make do. SERIES REGULAR;

Chloe Carpenter
20ish. Stunning and sexy. Daughter of a U.S. Senator. Silver spoon upbringing and a little spoiled but not stupid either. Politically and socially savvy. Dreams of following in her father's footsteps but for now she's a bit of a party girl in her first year at an Ivy League school. Her father's tragic death and the dire circumstances of being trapped on a spaceship seriously tests her character. SERIES REGULAR;

Eli Hitchcock
20-25. Total slacker. Utter genius. Mathematics, computers, anything he puts his mind to. Acerbic sense of humor. A social outcast. Comes from a broken home. Lacks confidence because his true intelligence has never really been recognized like Matt Damon's character from Good Will Hunting with a little Jack Black thrown in sptv050769. SERIES REGULAR;

Lt. Jared Nash
20-25. Junior S.G.C. team member. Officer material but green and rough around the edges. Every teenage girl's fantasy. Like a college quarterback thrown into his first pro game, he is thrust into the role of leader well before he's ready for the responsibility and must learn to take command, earn respect through action, and manage the diverse personalities on the ship to keep everyone alive. Like Jason Bourne, he is skilled and well-trained however he is mentally unprepared for the urgency of the situation. SERIES REGULAR;

Ron "Psycho" Stasiak
20, all ethnicities. Marine. Big, strong, silent. You want him on your side. You don't want him mad at you. Lacks control over his temper in non combat situations. His past is a mystery but it's clear something dark formed the hard shell around him. Yet, there must also be some moral center because otherwise he'd kill everyone around him. Think Eric Bana's character "Hoot" in Blackhawk Down. SERIES REGULAR.

I will still watch it though, I will have nothing else to do on Fridays. I just wish they kept SGA, but I guess that's the way it's going to be. Maybe, if their lucky, in S2 their will be a cast change.

[brymstone]

I hope not. I'll lose all interest if they start recasting every season again. It was bad enough changing SG-1's leadership in the last few seasons. But for SGA to do it so early in was surprising, and left me thinking it'd be cancelled before too long.

[Anissa T]

Oh, I know. I don't know what the deal was with the cast changes every 5 epi's. Drove me nuts!

[DarkLight188]

With the current SGU cast, I hope they make a change.

** Wants tthe SGA team!

[Robin K]

*whistles and sits on hands to keep from posting my opinion* LOL!

[brymstone]

robin, didn't you deja this vu already? :cb2

[colonel Mitchell]

or the sg1 cast i mean the original cast

[Anissa T]

How about me?

*Raising hand, waving excitedly volunteering her services*

[Robin K]

Yep, I certainly did. But you know, some folks don't look through all of the threads before starting a new one.

[colonel Mitchell]

yes NF?

[brymstone]

well volunteered, nf! and after watching sga 520, i wanna play with the wormhole drive. you just know that'll be involved somehow. don't s'pose yer headin' my way?

[Anissa T]

I'm never quite sure where I'm headed and where I end up isn't always where I wanted to go.....LMAO!

[Angelica Constantine]

Great Logic, NF...:D

[brymstone]

hehe, very good :D

[Dracus]

Colonel Everett Young
Basicly no romance plot availible due to wife

Ok, So let me tell you all a quick story

Once upon a time, there was this Sci Fi show.
It was good, very old, called "Star Trek"
It was so good, in fact, that it had lotsa spinoffs.
Star Trek: TNG
Star Trek: DS9

Now, these were of varying... goodness. TNG was awsome, DS9 was up and down. But there was ONE series that was TRULY horrible
Its name? Star Trek: Voyager
Its plot? Getting home.
And it was just... terrible. and I watched every episode

Stargate
Stargate: SG1
Stargate Atlantis

Stargate: Universe.
Its plot? GETTING HOME
Its characters? Lookin bad

Sci fi is going to quickley regret cancelling Atlantis for this show.
My expectations are quite low.

[Anissa T]

Curious. What were your thoughts about Enterprise?

[Dracus]

Well, I enjoyed watching it, like I enjoyed watching SG-1 or Voyager. I mean obivously both were way better than voyager.
But none of these really blew me away. it was just a show to watch on the side while I played games or somesuch...

By the last season, though, when they had all the guest writers, some nice eps started popping out. The borg one, the alternate evil universe... :P
You?

[Anissa T]

I think Enterprise got a bad deal. Their very first season got interrupted by 9/11 causing people to see the first half, about a 5-8 week interruption (can't remember the exact time frame) and then you had to regroup try and recall the first half of the season (since it was building on itself). Then, there was a HUGE break before season 2 began.

I did enjoy it a lot. I'm a Scott Bakula fan and became a fan of Conor Trineer, Dominic Keeting, and John Billingsly (guest spotting on SG1 helps I suppose....LOL).

I believe the show had a real good premise, a good base story and a lot of potential. I feel like the, I don't know, producers, writers whoever, didn't put much into it after being side tracked by world events, thus leading to the shows demise. However, I will agree with you that towards the very end of the show, they started popping out some pretty darn good epi's.

[Dracus]

I dunno. it had a weak beginning. They were way too techy about the show. They should have tried to go back to more old star trek, which relied much more on story then CG and Tech.

The story with the Time Cold War was a roller coaster. Half the time I thought it was pretty cool, the other half I thought it was the stupedist thing ever.
haha, oh well.
Im comtherable knowing that the new star trek movie is in good hands. J.J. Abrams, I mean XD

[colonel Mitchell]

i like conner trineer hes a good actor

[Dev Brown]

Now, these were of varying... goodness. TNG was awsome, DS9 was up and down. But there was ONE series that was TRULY horrible
Its name? Star Trek: Voyager
Its plot? Getting home.
And it was just... terrible. and I watched every episode

Voyager was the best Star Trek series....ever.



Anyway, I hope there's a little more space ships and cool alien stuff in this new series, and a bit less political stuff (like in Atlantis the relations with those tribal Pegasus dudes and the IOA stuff).

[brymstone]

sadly, the ioa call all the shots now mate.

[Dracus]

Voyager was the best Star Trek series....ever.



Anyway, I hope there's a little more space ships and cool alien stuff in this new series, and a bit less political stuff (like in Atlantis the relations with those tribal Pegasus dudes and the IOA stuff).

Really? Did you like Voyager a lot?

[Wraithicator]

Now, these were of varying... goodness. TNG was awsome, DS9 was up and down. But there was ONE series that was TRULY horrible
Its name? Star Trek: Voyager
Its plot? Getting home.
And it was just... terrible. and I watched every episode

I like how you mention that you watched every ep even though you thought it sucked. That's very...loyal of you. Even if SGU comparatively sucks...no, it's not an if. Sorry. Even though SGU will comparatively suck, I plan to watch it. But there's a difference between comparatively sucking and just generally sucking. Like the difference between a vacuum and a black hole. "Vacuum" suckiness is tolerable. "Black hole" suckiness is only good for temporary amusement. We'll have to see which SGU is. I'm very afraid, however...

[Dracus]

haha, half the reason I watched voyager was because I had nothing else to do.

And honestly, I would just be amazed at how stupid some of the shows would turn out. They ALL started amazingly, and within the first 5 minutes... PHYCH! ITS A HOLOGRAM! OR ZING! ITS TIME TRAVEL!
-_-

To be fair, there were episodes of Voyager I did actualy really like. Nemisis, Message in a Bottle, Scorpion, etc... but for all their great episodes, they had ones that were just... horrible.

The one where Paris and Janeway EVOLVED into giant lizards, and had babies? All of star trek fans agree it was the worst episode, of ALL star treks.

The one where the silver goo copy crew of voyager exploded, and had abselutley no point? Like, whats the moral there? "If your a clone, your gonna die a horrible death, KNOWING that your gonna die in the last week of your life, and you will in no way be remembered for your achievments."

Those two episodes where the hirogen were the nazi's and the voyager crew was rebelling? They didnt even TRY to make parralells in that ep, they just stuck them straight IN world war 2! And neelix was a klingon.

Oh, and any time travel episode?
No, lets narrow that one. The LAST episode. I was actualy ****** off at voyager. They just... they did the WORST possible ending they could think of! It wasnt even cool, it was just.. GAH!

Ive got a lot to say about this show. XD
But, like I said, there were some very good eps to come out of all the garbage.

[Dev Brown]

I liked VOY cause of the ship and the cool aliens, and I think the episodes weren't all that bad. That Nazi episode was actually quite amusing, and Endgame was awesome. Big ****in armour and totally annihilate anything anywhere anytime torpedoes? Woo Hoo!

[Wraithicator]

Yeah, sometimes a good story is a good thing. Other times, you just gotta blow stuff up.

[Dev Brown]

Yeah, sometimes a good story is a good thing. Other times, you just gotta blow stuff up.

Thanks what I'm talkin about :D

[Dracus]

I liked VOY cause of the ship and the cool aliens, and I think the episodes weren't all that bad. That Nazi episode was actually quite amusing, and Endgame was awesome. Big ****in armour and totally annihilate anything anywhere anytime torpedoes? Woo Hoo!

haha... Excpet that technology will probably never come to fruation now.

Because she went on the trip, took the EXPERIENCE of fighting the borg back to earth, they developed appropriate technology for it.
Janeway fought her way back, and then anihilated the borg once she got back, in a nutshell.
Everyone else went to lead great lives! It clearly showed everybody being like as happy as possible
With the expection of Tuvok, and Chokote of course (I know I spelled that wrong dont kill me) But honestly, his romance plot should have been with Janeway anyways, not a 2 episode love arc with 7 of 9.

Anywho, so then Janeway goes back in time, and gets voyager home early.
Janeway has no experience.
Everybody else is probably not gonna end up like they did.
The borg could anihilate them, and what are they gonna do? Learn all over again.

My point is, they showed us what the future would have been if Voyager went through the trouble of legitametley getting home. How Earth would have been better off, and almost everybody else would have been very much happy!

BUT NOPE! TRICKED YA! ITS ANOTHER TIME TRAVEL EPISODE! Instead were just gonna throw them home, and be done with it. Oh, and all those morals and lessons about time travel? CHUCK EM OUT THE WINDOW!

-_-
And yes, the Nazi epsisode was quite hilarious XD
If you want your super torpedos, go watch Year of Hell. Part 1, Part 2 just went downhill XD

[brymstone]

here's a reminder of the sgu concept art yet:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=61531

[Dracus]

here's a reminder of the sgu concept art yet:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=61531

Oh sweet, an un-origanol design for an already made Ancient Ship.

[Wraithicator]

Ooooh...that looks a-mazing...
Bit sarcastic, ain't we Dracus?

[Dracus]

:P
Well, it just doesent look like anything new, and the show is supposed to be new D:

[Angelica Constantine]

That's ok I am not impressed myself.

[Robin K]

Okay, took a peek. Color me unimpressed.

[Angelica Constantine]

Okay, took a peek. Color me unimpressed.

Tee-Hee XD

[brymstone]

it's not meant to be completely new. the show is centred around the destiny. an alteran ship. if the alterans had as much an influence on life(inGeneral) as we're lead to believe, there's bound to be aesthetic similarities too.

[Dracus]

We'll see.
It could be awsome, you never know. But personally, I think the only way they coulda won over Star Trek is if they used Human ships, with ****py Tech, and military tactics, where as Star trek is more sciency stuff

[brymstone]

i didn't think they were in competition with trek. commercially speaking, sg holds it's own pretty well. and as much as i don't like to think of it in the following way, because some of the show-runners appear to be losing interest imho, i think the show and we can still be milked for alot more than it/we currently have been.

[Dracus]

Sorry.
I meant that if SGU becomes much more based on the ship and about the ship than anything else, then it might be in compettition.

[brymstone]

starfleet was primarily a military outfit. the shows followed the daily lives of military personnel. i found this great explanation of all the treks which i think can just as readily be applied to the sg's.


A friend described Star Trek to me in about this way: I think Star Trek reflects the corporate nature of modern America, and the idyllic and sometimes paranoid response of your average salaryman to the intense pressures of the daily workplace. In it, we have a giant floating Company (presciently named "Enterprise") with a Magnificent CEO ("Captain") at the helm, hot secretaries bouncing around (take your pick), a perfect computer system that will even allow breaks to hallucinated fight/love fests (now if that doesn't scream work-place fantasy, I don't know what does), and a variety of rich-country ethnicities cooperating against: Jewish Bankers ("Ferengi"); teeming hordes of strong, but barbaric African-Americans ("Klingons"), (though we trust at least one of these races enough to have on our team (e.g. "Worf")). And look at the modern enemy: Microsoft ("the Borg" which threatens to consume us), and our best defense Linux ("Data"). Instead of the real work-world cry for "Profit at any cost", we prefer to think of ourselves engaged in the ethics of the Prime Directive... which, if we win against the Borg, we may :) -- Pablo

[Robin K]

I see that applying to the Star Trek shows...but don't find the correlation to Stargate. (I'm also tired at the moment, and the brain isn't firing on all pistons, so I might be missing something.)

One thing that I've decided, however, is that I enjoy the show. Love Stargate SG-1. I'm not going to look for any deep, hidden meanings in any subtext. I'm going to take it for what it is. I think sometimes we tend to try to over think things.

But, that's just tired, grumpy ol' me at the moment...:wink:

[Angelica Constantine]

starfleet was primarily a military outfit. the shows followed the daily lives of military personnel. i found this great explanation of all the treks which i think can just as readily be applied to the sg's.


A friend described Star Trek to me in about this way: I think Star Trek reflects the corporate nature of modern America, and the idyllic and sometimes paranoid response of your average salaryman to the intense pressures of the daily workplace. In it, we have a giant floating Company (presciently named "Enterprise") with a Magnificent CEO ("Captain") at the helm, hot secretaries bouncing around (take your pick), a perfect computer system that will even allow breaks to hallucinated fight/love fests (now if that doesn't scream work-place fantasy, I don't know what does), and a variety of rich-country ethnicities cooperating against: Jewish Bankers ("Ferengi"); teeming hordes of strong, but barbaric African-Americans ("Klingons"), (though we trust at least one of these races enough to have on our team (e.g. "Worf")). And look at the modern enemy: Microsoft ("the Borg" which threatens to consume us), and our best defense Linux ("Data"). Instead of the real work-world cry for "Profit at any cost", we prefer to think of ourselves engaged in the ethics of the Prime Directive... which, if we win against the Borg, we may -- Pablo


Oh, funny, funny, funny.

Brym, you really can find some doozies can't you...

a wee bit racist, but yeah its ok. XD

[Dracus]

A friend described Star Trek to me in about this way: I think Star Trek reflects the corporate nature of modern America, and the idyllic and sometimes paranoid response of your average salaryman to the intense pressures of the daily workplace. In it, we have a giant floating Company (presciently named "Enterprise") with a Magnificent CEO ("Captain") at the helm, hot secretaries bouncing around (take your pick), a perfect computer system that will even allow breaks to hallucinated fight/love fests (now if that doesn't scream work-place fantasy, I don't know what does), and a variety of rich-country ethnicities cooperating against: Jewish Bankers ("Ferengi"); teeming hordes of strong, but barbaric African-Americans ("Klingons"), (though we trust at least one of these races enough to have on our team (e.g. "Worf")). And look at the modern enemy: Microsoft ("the Borg" which threatens to consume us), and our best defense Linux ("Data"). Instead of the real work-world cry for "Profit at any cost", we prefer to think of ourselves engaged in the ethics of the Prime Directive... which, if we win against the Borg, we may -- Pablo

ehm...

[brymstone]

i didn't write it. i found it doing some research for the trek project i'm coding for a friend, and noticed that some of the names can just as easily be swapped out for sg names without changing much of the descriptions.

[Robin K]

*smacks palm against forehead* Duh! Stargate Universe! Got it! (See, I told you that I was tired when I read it the first time! *big grin*)

[Dracus]

lol Robin

Well brym, the.. excert is just a bit ridiculous :P

[MistressKoloth]

So I'm probably a bit late on this subject, but since I'm probably the only Klingon on the board! LOL, thought that I'd chime in. This new SG Universe has rightly been pegged Star Trek Voyager and as listed earlier, yes the SG franchise is following the ST Franchise very closely. I hate that they took off Atlantis when I just started getting into it! Next series a prequal - LOL.

Enterprise - 1st season was oK. HATED the 2nd and 3rd season. *** Suliban? 4th season rocked until the last couple of episodes and the gosh awful season finale.

Voyager was pretty good, IMHO the season ending of Voyager was the best ST ending. Nothing was more incredible than seeing Voyager come out of the Borg mother ship. Rocked.

[brymstone]

i loved that finale! the whole build-up to it with the borg was great too. and i loved all the transwarp experiments tom ran. very cool breaking the threshold. in comparison, i think sg achieved it's transwarp status a little too early in the franchise. i think the wormhole drive could've been more believable if it came from research carried out onboard the destiny. that's supposed to be a far more advanced ancient ship than any of the ancient ships in the known galaxies. only stands to reason, i think, that a plot device such as instantaneous space travel would be discovered on a ship like the destiny - considering it's purpose.

[Angelica Constantine]

Yes, Voyager coming back to the Alpha Quadrant in a Blaze of Glory. That was awsome!