Happy New Year 2009!!!

[brymstone]

Hey everyone. I'm heading off now to get tonight's party prepared. So have a great time tonight wherever you are. Drink safely and party hard!

Happy New Year all!!!

[Anissa T]

Happy New Years to all my cyber friends!

[Angelica Constantine]

:wave: Aye, Happy New Year all... :wave:

[Robin K]

Happy and Blessed New Year to all!

[Dev Brown]

Happy new year dudes!

[colonel Mitchell]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! :)

[Black Hunter]

sorry it's kinda late. Happy New Year One And All!!!!

[Dracus]

Happy wicked belated new year everyone!

[Anissa T]

Good to see ya Dracus!

[Dracus]

You too newfan, its been a while hasent it :P

[Anissa T]

Yes. Several of us have been quite busy. But, bad weather forced a handful to actually sit down a moment and chit chat around here...LOL!

[Dracus]

hah! Yeah weather aint so hot here either. Quite the opposite of hot actualy..

I decided to stop in since like, Atlantis is over and Universe is coming.. wanted to see all your thoughts on it.
But yeah, ill try and stick around and not disapear for another year :P

[Anissa T]

LOL!

I know. I was just getting comfortable with Atlantis and bam after their best season (and subsequently ratings) they cancel it.

[brymstone]

what do you expect with decision makers who aren't fans.

[Anissa T]

I expect nothing from those people....LOL!

[Robin K]

Excellent point, Brym. Of course, you'd think the people involved with the making/producing of the show would try a bit harder to keep it around, eh?

[Anissa T]

You know Robin, you got me thinking (no chuckles please). I wonder how they get investors when they are begining to have a record of short term series, unless that is a growing trend in the industry. Although, based on other shows, I'm not seeing that. Short series yes, but not when there are good ratings and a strong fan base.

[Robin K]

My guess is that for now, they're using the investors who don't particularly care where the money is used...the thing of it is, to produce a quality show, they need GOOD sponsors. Anyone notice the drop-off of sponsors for Atlantis when SG-1 was canceled? Now that Atlantis has been canceled, my guess is that the sponsors are going to be hesitant to sign up for Universe.

Considering that TPTB have alienated the majority of their fan base, and you KNOW that the research departments of the large corps who buy advertising blocks are well aware of that fact, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Universe off to a rocky start as far as sponsors go.

Since none of those who will watch Universe are expecting much, I don't see a loyal fan base developing among existing 'Gaters. And, if the target audience is 'younger', as in those with less or no disposable income, that will hurt the show finacially as well.

My prediction? It won't last three seasons. Not too sure it will have a second one...not with the premise and the cliche characters they intend to use. (Read the character list again, and think "Firefly". While that show had promise, it fell victim of being place to early in the prime time line up, and continually being shuffled from one day/time slot to another.)

(Okay, now someone can ask me the pertinent question...to which the reply is, "nope, don't care at all!")

[Dracus]

Firefly was an amazing show. Its just fox was retarted in airing it...

I agree with your prediction on Universe, Robin. 2 or 3 seasons, max. Then its done for, along with stargate.

However, There is definitley hope for Atlantis. Good writers, Strong fan base, and the ratings probably were half decent. After BSG is finished and universe dies, Sci Fi miiight let atlantis come back..

'Course now ill sound like a firefly fan in that I want a good dead show to come back XD

Sci Fi is being pretty stupid, I agree. They probably think that with Battlestar they'll just get everybody to watch the shows that air next to it. Im unsure...

[brymstone]

You've found their problem alright. They don't think.

[Dracus]

Nah they do. The problem lies in that all they think about is money. and greed. and money. and more money :D

[Angelica Constantine]

Hi Dracus...long time no see. :wave:

[Dracus]

Hey AC! Whaddup?

[Angelica Constantine]

Whattup? Being sick and growing Dragons..LOL
How about you?

[Robin K]

Dracus, I never watched Atlantis, it just never 'captured' my attention the way that SG-1 did. What ticks me off is that SG-1 had higher ratings than Atlantis when it was canceled. And according to MS, CJ and AT, they had been in contract negotiations for the 11th season when the suits walked in to the 200th episode party and said literally, "Oh by the way, the show has been canceled." (This was info in an interview MS had gave in Germany.) The very same thing happened to Atlantis.

I lay part of the 'problem' at the feet of Robert Cooper, who prefers to write beginnings, and hates writing endings, which, according to him, was what he had to do each season, not knowing if the show would be picked up again. Which is BS, because after season 7, there wasn't a question about SG-1 being picked up. Atlantis was going just as strong. But RC won't write for one show if the other is still going. He wanted Atlantis...SG-1 got the ax. He wants Universe, Atlantis got the ax.

Then there was the suit who said that the fans would get used to the idea, and they'd deal with it. Yes, he really said that. What blatant disregard for the very people who made those shows a success, eh?

If the producers and investors are banking on that fan base, they're in for a very rude awakening. It's already gone. Sci fi fans are very intelligent people. Unlike the masses who vegetate in front of cookie cutter sitcoms and 'dramas', watching show after show that could have been written by monkeys, for the most part, we expect more from a show...intelligence, a reason for the characters to behave as they do, and we expect characters who are more than one- or two-dimensional. Treat us like those masses of couch potatoes, and you're going to lose us. I don't think the suits at Sci-fi have figured that out. I'm guessing the fact that many fans have contacted them about the fact that wrestling has no place on a SCIENCE FICTION channel has gone unnoticed...or rather, has been ignored. I haven't turned on the Sci-fi channel since SG-1 was canceled. Don't plan to do so in the future, either.

Okay...I've said my piece, and now I'll keep my mouth shut about it...*grin*

[Angelica Constantine]

Yay, Robin...:D

[Dracus]

Growing dragons?

Well atlantis was Stranger compared to SG-1 in terms of "Endings"
By the end, SG-1 wasnt really going much anywhere, had one plot.

Atlantis has many unreseolved storylines still.

But yeah, your right. He doesent write endings. And its clear that all good sci-fi need endings

[Orca15]

*is gonna ignore the banter about Atlantis ending, don't need anything else depressing as I have enough of that right now....*

HAPPY BELATED NEW YEAR Y'ALL!!!!! Party on this year! May God bless all of y'all. Hope you have a wonderful year.

[Dev Brown]

Sorry I'm late, hope all you guys have a great 2009!

[Robin K]

No problems Dev...how go the finals?

(Nice to see you, too!)