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Lemuria
04-26-2008, 06:00 PM
I am probably overanalyzing things here, but I have a theory about the Tok'ra. Maybe they are not all they say they are and if the show had continued we might have see this coming. There were already shades of it in the later seasons.

They say they are against the Gou'uld. Fine, but for what reason. Do they hate the systems lords so much that they want to free everyone in the galaxy or do they want it for themselves. They were always being secretive and they would always act high and mighty. They say it is for the humans own good. Treating most humans like idiot children.

Jack started to distrust them. The Jaffa rebels did not trust them because to them they were still Gou'ulds.

Another tip off was the hypocrisy they showed towards the later shows. When they first came on SG-1 was lectured about how could there be an alliance when there was disgust on their faces at the very mention of the work symbiote. But then when they decided in later shows to end the alliance that Tok'ra that was in charged was being very arrogant and when he was approached by Jacob, Jacob asked him who did he think he was talking to? The Tok'ra responded with a smug look on his face saying obviously a human host.

So, they are secretive, can't be trusted, get mad when things are not going their way, and they have a disgust for humans and only think of them as nothing more than potential hosts. Sounds like a Gou'uld to me.

Maybe this was all an act to get humans to trust them so that when the Gou'uld where defeated they could take over.

Oh, well, I am rambling. I just had that thought. I am probably reading more into it that what it should be. LOL. I need to get a life. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

Robin K
04-26-2008, 06:28 PM
Tok'ra means "against Ra". So they were against Ra. Doesn't mean they were against all things Goa'uld...no matter how much they might have demanded not to be called Goa'uld.

The Tok'ra were always arrogant, and I think it came from them deciding to work with their hosts, rather than just subjugating them. So they thought they were much better than the Goa'uld and the humans.

Seems to me that considering that the humans (the Tau'ri specifically) killed more Goa'uld and freed more human colonies in what, eight years? than the Tok'ra had done in darn near that many centuries proves they weren't out to destroy the Goa'uld, but to control them.

As Jack says, a snake is a snake!

yukitoyu22
04-30-2008, 02:55 AM
I think their intent is in the right place. At least in terms of the Queen who spawned them. She wanted good snake people, not bad.. however you want to qualify it. Their arrogance is definately there, but I don't think they were secretly evil. If that were the case, Jacob/Selmack would have played out differently.

Robin K
04-30-2008, 04:24 AM
Not necessarily. Because Selmak was joined with a Tau'ri, she actually lost her place on the Council. The others didn't trust her or Jacob not to tell Hammond and SG-1 what the Tok'ra were doing. Jacob/Selmak went 'against' the Tok'ra several times to help SG-1...although we were never privy to what kind of consequences those actions netted.

Orca15
08-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Maybe Lemuria's theory is correct and we're looking at what might be the next movie... The rise of the Tok'ra into full power and rule. Maybe they took advantage of the Tau'ri to take down the system lords and the next movie will be the Tok'ra taking the place of the Gua'uld in the Galexy, and posibly even Pegisus, in fact, we may see it on Atlantis first, then in a movie, or there may be no other movie and it will just be on Atlantis. It's food for thought though, I think the only Tok'ra that I ever trusted was Martouf/Lantash and Jacob/Sel'mack. But, Lemuria's theory could very well be correct.

marc1073
06-19-2009, 11:49 AM
i think the tokra are a suspicious bunch with lots of secret and i also think they have good intentions

brymstone
06-20-2009, 07:07 AM
some tok'ra probably do. but they're inherently goa'uld. there's always going to be some doubt about them.

AC'S Mom
06-20-2009, 07:15 AM
As Jack would say, " ya can't trust any of those snakey types.(shivers) They gimme the creeps." :j3

Wraithicator
06-20-2009, 07:39 PM
I like some of the Tok'ra, but they always have more going on than they reveal. I don't think they're planning galactic dominance, although that would make a really cool plot for the next SG-1 movie. I guess we'll have to see.